FINAL MANDATORY MEETING OF 2023-2024 SEASON ( APRIL 2nd 2024 )
7PM LEGENDS
ONLY THE CAPTAINS OR 1 TEAM MEMBER WILL BE ALLOWED AT THE MEETING
AND THERE WILL BE VOTING. 1 VOTE PER TEAM ON ANY ISSUE
1 IF YOU HAVE TWO BALLS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY WOULD BE A SPLIT
HIT AND THERE IS A FOUL CALLER. IF THE FOUL CALLER DEEMS IT A FOUL IT IS A FOUL. AT STATE IF YOU HAD A REFEREE HE WOULD MAKE THE
CALL. IF NO REFEREE OR FOUL CALLER IT GOES TO THE SHOOTER.
FOUL CALLER’S DECISION IS FINAL.
DECISION
( IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT IF THE BALLS LOOK LIKE A SPLIT HIT, THE
PLAYERS SHOULD GET AN UNBIASED FOUL CALLER, AND THEIR DECISION
WOULD BE FINAL. SINCE OUR LEAGUE CALLS THEIR OWN FOULS, IF A FOUL IS
DECIDED, YOU MUST YIELD TO THE FOUL CALLER. )
2 IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO RAISE THE WEEKLY FEES TO $10 JUST LIKE
SUMMER LEAGUE. THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TEAMS TO VOTE ON THIS,
SO THE MATTER WAS DROPPED. THERE WAS NOT ANY INTEREST IN THIS.
DECISION
( THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AND NO ONE AT THE MEETING WAS INTERESTED. )
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RULES
3 MOVING OF OBJECT BALLS ACCIDENTLEY. SHOULD IT BE A LOSS OF
TURN OR A FOUL, IF YOU MOVE MORE THAN ONE BALL SHOULD IT BE A
FOUL.
DECISION
WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, AND I DO BELIEVE IF YOU MOVE MORE
THAN ONE BALL IT SHOULD BE A FOUL. IF YOU MOVE ONE BALL BY
ACCIDENT, IT SHOULD BE YOUR OPPONENTS CHOICE IF HE ( OR SHE )
WANTS THE BALL PLACED BACK TO WHERE IT WAS.
********* ( THIS SHOULD BE VOTED ON AT THE START UP MEETING. ) *******
4 PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE OUR RULES TO
THAT OF ISPA WPA, AND VNEA OR ACS. THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE CHANGE OUR RULES THAT WE USE FOR 28 WEEKS TO THOSE OF THE STATE
TOURNAMENTS THAT LAST FOR AT THE MOST 5 DAYS EACH TOURNEY.
ALSO, FROM OUR LEAGUE, THERE ARE APPROX 10% OF OUR LEAGUE GO
TO THE STATE TOURNAMENTS. THERE ARE TOURNAMENTS HELD ALL
OVER, AND I KNOW SOME OF OR MEMBERS PLAY IN THEM. WHEN YOU
PLAY IN THOSE TOURNAMENTS YOU GO BY THEIR RULES. WHAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE WITH PLAYING AT THE ISPA TOURNAMENT. DO WE REALLY
HAVE TO CHANGE OUR RULES TO PLAY THERE.? ALSO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE TEAMS WHO DO NOT GO TO STATE. DO THEY WANT TO CHANGE OUR
RULES TO MPA RULES, WHICH WE HAVE GOT RID OF OVER 20 YEARS AGO.
BECAUSE THEY WERE SO NIT PICKY.
THIS IS NOT GOING FORWARD FOR OUR LEAGUE. OPINIONS ON THIS.
DECISION
( IT WAS PUT TO A VOTE AND THE LEAGUE DECIDED TO REMAIN WITH C.P.B.A.
RULES, AND NOT GO WITH WPA RULES. )
5 WHAT IS EVERYONES OPINION OF USING COMPUSPORT FOR OUR
LEAGUE.? I KNOW THAT IT WORKS FOR SINGLES AND SCOTCH DOUBLES,
BUT WHAT ARE THE GOOD OR BAD ISSUES FOR OUR LEAGUE. ?
I HAVE HEARD GOOD REVUES AND BAD REVUES FROM PLAYERS
IN OUR LEAGUE WHO USE COMPUSPORT IN OTHER LEAGUES.
LET US KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS. REMEMBER WE HAVE
PLAYERS IN OUR LEAGUE WHO ARE NOT TECH SAVVY.
DO WE GET PRINTOUTS.? HOW DOES THE HANDICAP WORK.?
HOPEFULLY JOYCE CAN HELP US OUT WITH THIS. IF THIS GOES
THROUGH, THE MONEY WILL BE PUT IN ENVELOPES AND LEFT AT
LEGENDS AS USUAL. YOU WILL HAVE UNTIL 5PM THE FOLLOWING
DAY TO DROP OFF THE LEAGUE MONEY. THERE SURELY HAS TO BE AT
LEAST ONE PERSON ON YOUR TEAM WHO CAN DROP OFF THE MONEY.
IF THE MONEY IS NOT DROPPED OFF BY 5PM THE FOLLOWING DAY,
THE VISITING TEAM WILL BE FINED.
DECISION
( IT WAS VOTED TO USE COMPUSPORT FOR OUR LEAGUE. WE ARE STILL
USING SCORE SHEETS ALSO , AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST YEAR, TO SEE HOW
IT WORKS OUT. THE MONEY WILL STILL BE DROPPED OFF AT 5PM.
IF YOU CANNOT MAKE IT BY 5PM, CALL DAVE HOLMES TO FIND OUT WHEN
YOU CAN DROP THE MONEY OFF. )
6 IF YOU ARE IN A POSITION TO FINISH IN THE TOP THREE OF YOUR
DIVISION, YOU HAVE TO LET US KNOW IF YOU WANT PLAQUES OR MONEY.
IF YOU DO NOT LET US KNOW, YOU WILL RECEIVE PLAQUES.
ALSO, WE GIVE UP TO 5 PLAQUES PER TEAM. IF YOU WANT ANY EXTRA
PLAQUES YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM, AND LET US KNOW WHO
THE PLAQUE ( OR PLAQUES ) ARE FOR.
7 TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE MVP OF YOUR TEAM OR THE LEAGUE
YOU MUST HAVE PLAYED 75 PERCENT OF THE SEASON. IF ANY TEAM
DOES NOT HAVE ANY PLAYERS WHO HAVE PLAYED 75 PERCENT, WE
WILL GIVE THE MVP AWARD TO THE PERSON WHO HAS THE MOST
GAMES, AND HIGHEST AVERAGE, UNLESS WE ARE NOTIFIED BY THE TEAM
TO GIVE IT TO ANOTHER PLAYER. THE WHOLE TEAM SHOULD DECIDE
THIS.
8 THE MEN’S 3 PERSON TEAM TOURNAMENT TURNED OUT GREAT.
THERE WAS A DECENT TURNOUT, AND EVEYONE SEEMED TO ENJOY IT.
THE WOMEN HAD THEIRS AND IT TURNED OUT GREAT ALSO,
AND EVERYONE SEEMED TO ENJOY IT. WE DID NOT HAVE A
LARGE TURNOUT ( 8 TEAMS ) BUT FOR US DOING THIS FOR THE FIRST
TIME, WE THOUGHT IT WAS OK. HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE WILL GET
MORE PARTICIPATION.
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9 MOVING THE CUE BALL WITH YOUR STICK WITH BALL IN HAND. ?
YOU CANNOT USE THE TIP OF YOUR STICK. DO WE VOTE ON THIS AGAIN?
DECISION
( THIS HAS BEEN VOTED ON BEFORE, AND THE LEAGUE DECIDED NOT
TO ALLOW THIS. IF WE WENT TO WPA, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED,
BUT NOT IN THE C.P.B.A. LEAGUE. ) IF THEY WANT IT VOTED ON AGAIN,
IT WILL BE AT THE START UP MEETING.
10 ALSO WE HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS THAT SOME TEAMS DO NOT HAVE
SEATS DURING LEAGUE NIGHT. EACH BAR SHOULD HAVE SEATING FOR
BOTH TEAMS. IF YOU BRING ANY SPECTATORS (OR NON PLAYING PEOPLE)
TO POOL NIGHT, YOUR CANNOT TAKE OVER YOUR OPPONENTS TABLE
TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A SEAT. SOME BARS DO NOT HAVE THE ROOM
FOR GUESTS OF THE TEAMS. SO MAKE SURE THERE IS SEATING FOR BOTH
TEAMS.
IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT AT LEGENDS ON MEN’S POOL NIGHT,
THAT THE GOLFERS TAKE UP THE PLAYERS TABLES. THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT I WILL TAKE UP WITH THE OWNER OF LEGENDS, AND MAYBE WE CAN
SORT SOMETHING OUT TO HELP THE MEN’S TEAMS.
11 THE MEN’S REP AND THE TREASURER JOBS ARE UP FOR ELLECTION.
WE DID NOT REALIZE THIS UNTIL JUST RECENTLY. IF ANYONE WISHES
TO APPLY FOR THESE JOBS LET US KNOW.
YOU MUST BE ABLE TO FULFILL ALL THE DUTIES OF THE POSITION.
OFFICERS DUTIES ARE ON THE C.P.B.A WEBSITE.
REMEMBER, ANYONE YOU NOMINATE MUST WANT TO DO
THE JOB, AND MUST BE A MEMBER IN OUR LEAGUE FOR AT LEAST 3 YEARS
ONCE WE GET THE NOMINATIONS WE WILL GET VOTING SHEETS OUT TO
THE TEAMS. WE WILL PROBABLY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER UNTIL THE
START OF THE NEW SEASON. IF WE DO NOT GET ANY NOMINATIONS,
HANDED IN, WE WILL OF COURSE NOT SEND OUT VOTING SHEETS.
SO EACH TEAM FIND SOMEONE WHO WANTS THE JOBS , AND WE WILL
GO FROM THERE.
12 NEXT SEASON THERE WILL BE ONLY 2 MEETINGS ( START & FINISH )
13 IT WAS QUESTIONED ON WHY YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR A BYE.
DAVE WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.
DECISION
IT WAS DISCUSSED AND BROUGHT UP FOR A VOTE BY THE LEAGUE.
THE LEAGUE VOTED THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR A BYE
14 WHY DO SOME DIVISIONS HAVE A BYE AND SOME DO NOT, AND SHOULD
WE COMBINE THE 2 DIVISIONS IN THE WOMEN’S LEAGUE.
DECISION
( IT WAS DISCUSSED, THAT SOME DIVISIONS HAVE TO HAVE A BYE, AND IT
CANNOT BE HELPED. THE DIVISIONS STILL GO 2 UP AND 2 DOWN
SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE MORE OR SOMETIMES LESS TEAMS,
UP AND DOWN. DEPENDS ON HOW MANY ARE SIGNED UP. WE TRY TO
MAKE IT SO THAT THE LOWER TEAMS DO NOT HAVE TO PLAY THE
HIGHER RANKED TEAMS. )
( IT WAS ALSO VOTED THAT THE WOMEN’S TEAMS SHOULD NOT
BE COMBINED. )
15 AFTER THE BREAK, IF THE 8 BALL IS POCKETED BY MISTAKE AND
THE TABLE IS STILL OPEN, THE PLAYER WHO POCKETED THE 8 BALL
WILL LOSE THE HIGHEST POINTS LEFT ON THE TABLE.
16 IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP AND ASKED WHERE THE EXTRA MONEY
FROM THE $1 EXTRA WE PAY EACH NIGHT GOES TO.
ANSWER
( THE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THE ISPA SANCTION FEES GETS PUT
INTO THE LEAGUE FOR BONUS MONEY AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE EXTRA DOLLAR WAS VOTED IN BY THE LEAGUE, TO HELP TEAMS GO
TO STATE, IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES. THAT IS WHY THE WHOLE LEAGUE
IS SANCTIONED, IN CASE TEAMS HAVE PLAYERS WHO HAVE TO OPT OUT,
DUE TO AN EMERGENCY. THEN THESE TEAMS CAN PICK UP ANYONE FROM
THE LEAGUE, AS THE WHOLE LEAGUE IS SANCTIONED. )
17 THE AWARDS NIGHT IS ON APRIL 27TH AT 7PM AT LEGENDS.
LEGENDS ARE PROVIDING A FREE MEAL FOR THE LEAGUE THAT NIGHT.
IT WILL BE, PULLED PORK SANDWICHES, CHIPS, COLESLAW & DESSERT
THEY WILL START SERVING AT 5 OR 5:30PM AND STOP AT 6:30PM
THE MEAL WILL BE FREE OF CHARGE.
LEGENDS ALSO WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THEY MAY RENT A POOL
TABLE FOR $10 A DAY THROUGH APRIL 2024
MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE FROM YOUR TEAM IS AT THE AWARDS
TO PICK UP YOUR MONEY AND PLAQUES. IF IT IS NOT THE CAPTAIN,
PLEASE LET DAVE HOLMES KNOW WHO WILL GET THE TEAMS MONEY
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THIS IS A SHOUT OUT TO THE SPONSORS.
THEY ARE PLANNING ON HAVING A BENEFIT POOL TOURNAMENT FOR
GAVIN GREEN. COULD YOU SPEAK TO YOUR SPONSORS AND FIND OUT IF
THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR BARS PARTICIPATE IN THIS BENEFIT AND LET
US KNOW. THEY WOULD LIKE IT SOMETIME IN MAY IF POSSIBLE.
IT WAS DISCUSSED AND IT WAS DECIDED ON MAY 18TH.
THIS WILL BE A SCOTCH DOUBLES TOURNAMENT
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18 FINALLY THE STATE TOURNAMENT IN DES MOINES IS ON APRIL 10-14TH
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE WHO IS GOING.
ADDED TO MEETING
THESE POINTS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA BY SARAH
JOHNSON.
SHE WOUULD LIKE TO HAVE THE MEETINGS SPREAD AROUND TO DIFFERENT
SPONSOR BARS.
SHE WANTS TO DISCUSS HAVING TRAVELING CITY TOURNAMENTS, AND
IN HER OPINION LEGENDS HAS BENEFITED FROM “ THIS CITY POOL LEAGUE”
AND BELIEVES IT IS UNFAIR TO ALL THE OTHER SPONSORS.
DISCUSSION
SINCE SARAH LEFT THE MEETING BEFORE THIS WAS DISCUSSED WE STILL
WENT AHEAD AND DISCUSSED THAT WE COULD SEND OUT PLAYERS FOR
THE FIRST 2 ROUNDS, AND THEN BRING THEM BACK TO FINISH THE
TOURNAMENT. WE DO NOT WANT PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND FROM BAR
TO BAR UNDER THE INFLUENCE. IF ANYONE HAS AN ACCI DENT OR IS
STOPPED BY THE AUTHORITIES FOR ANY REASON, THE LEAGUE CANNOT
RISK BEING HELD RESPOSIBLE. BAR OWNERS HAVE INSURANCE FOR THIS
BUT OUR LEAGUE DOES NOT. IT IS DIFFERENT ON LEAGUE NIGHT AS YOU
ARE IN ONE PLACE ALL NIGHT AND NOT MOVING AROUND FROM BAR TO BAR.
ALSO IT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT HAVING THE MEETINGS IN SOME SPONSOR
BARS. THE ONLY BARS FEASABLE ARE LEGENDS AND TRIPLE PLAY. THERE
ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE TO HAVE THEM IN THE OTHER BARS
*********** ( THESE SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AT THE START UP MEETING.)*******
ALSO, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO ENFORCE THE SLOW PLAY RULE.
THIS CAN ONLY HAPPEN IF WE KNOW ABOUT IT, AND THE TEAMS ABIDE BY IT.
IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY LOREN VANKAMPEN THAT THE MEN’S AA DIVISION
SHOULD BE CUT DOWN TO 8 TEAMS. THIS PROBABLY MEANS THAT THE OTHER
MEN’S DIVISIONS WILL BE SMALLER.
*******THESE ADDED POINTS SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AT THE START UP MEETING.*